NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.10.31 01:01:09 -
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Im a carebear and have done recruiting for the past 8 years and when i read about this... idea... I dident know if i should laugh or hit my head in the desk.
Recruiting should be risky! People should not do it unless they have an idea about what they are doing, and even then they will, and should screw up once in a while and have their corp members blown up..
Sure this would be a benefit for new players that decide to create their own corp. You know... The kind of corp where the CEO generally has no idea what they are doing, dont understand basic game mechanics, and certainly dont understand how to run an efficient corp in EVE. The kind of corp that falls apart as soon as it has its first corp theft, or war dec, or internal drama, or members backstabbing each other or have the CEO burn out after less then 6 months because they suddenly realize running a corp in EVE is nothing like running a guild in *generic MMO where your a success if you get 10 people to sign a guild charter".
But here is the thing, people joining these new corporations that have no clue what they are doing, receive no guidance from their CEO or directors, get burned because of the leaderships mistakes, those people tend to think that every corp in EVE is the same, and (surprise surprise) they quit.
I spend most of my time in rookie systems, i talk to a lot of new players, i spend a lot of time here on the forums and yes, i actually do read posts made by new players. Believe it or not but i have yet to see someone quit because they got awoxed, OR because of reverse safari.
What i do see, over and over and over again are people who are unhappy because they joined the first corp that spammed local with "Hey join us because were awesome because we put this copy paste advert in every system we jump trough", just to find out that the corp they joined really arent that great after all. But yea, im sure awoxing is a huge part of why people are having a bad experience when joining their first corp 
So instead of coming up with silly ideas about removing something that for some is a huge part of the game, making it even easier for a new player to create a corporation that will fail and drag its members down (and out of EVE) with them, try to educate your new members about how to actually find a (proper) corp instead!
Before anyone says "Do it your self then!".
I have actually written a full guide on how to find a corp, and with the help of other players the guide has actually managed to get in a lot of information that helps new players avoid the regular traps they might encounter when joining a corp. If players can do this, im sure that a few CCP employees and CSM could manage to do it and add it into the game so that people could actually find the information.
As far as i know the tutorial manages to say "Now go and join the recruitment channel and find friends to play with!". Sure great info... Except the fact that the recruitment channel is one of (if not the) worst places for a recruit to find a decent corp. And of course lets not give them any guidelines on what a corp is, what the risks are, what the benefits are, what a corp can do for them and visa versa. Instead lets make sure that all the recruit knows is that they should join this random thing they dont understand because "you can meet people". Well if you want friends i hear that the NPC corp chats are very active and have a lot of people you can chat with 
Small hint. A new player will not understand that a corp offers way more then a joint chat channel or reduced taxes.
For how this is supposedly making people avoid to recruit people to their corp. I have no clue where thats coming from. If you look at the in-game recruitment tool, the recruitment chat, the recruitment section of these forums, random local chats (pay extra attention to the rookie and starter systems) you will see that there are houndreds of corporations out there, openly recruiting, complete strangers! New players, old players, women, men, young, old, hardcore, laid back. And these are just the ones advertising that they recruit!
Claiming that there isent enough corporations openly recruiting is one of the most ridiculous statements i have ever heard from a CCP employee. so thanks for the laugh 
(If i completely misunderstood what they are trying to say here please correct me, and in the event that i did misunderstand i apologize)
CCP Seagull - The equally important problem is the amount of work that smart, experienced, and knowlegable people in Eve do to protect themselves from being harmed by bringing in new people. Why is not every corporation recruiting openly if this is not a problemm? I know that it is also corporation roles and access. But you are smart enough to know what you are getting into but do you not agree this is hindering recruitment?
DJ FunkyBacon - Or you get shot and learn it fast.
Ali Aras - And some people do survive that. I mean, some people do and some people donGÇÖt.
CCP Bettik - It makes people less willing to recruit. We need to admit to that.
CCP Fozzie - The smart high secGÇÖs player best option is not to join a corp and not to recruit.
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